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[PsychoDuck]

Well, there go all the best years of her life. Enjoy!

[Tails Miles Prower]

all girls wanted a baby doll, but she got a real baby.

thats screwy. Hell yeah she needs to get an abortion becuase her life is on the edge. but it's too late.

[Tails Miles Prower]

But Tails. That baby has a beating heart!

But according to my research*, she was pregnant before she had sex D:
> Arizona bill

[Shulk]

Why is a 10 year old even having sex? That should be the first question. And no, that's a HUGE operation much worse then just giving birth and putting the kid up for adoption. So I don't think at 10 years old that should even be an option.

[Sunnyboom]

Why is a 10 year old even having sex?

Well, different country, different standards, different type of people.
There aren't enough reasons in the universe to explain why some people do what they do.

But seriously, dang.

[Shulk]

Even in other countries normally the age is 13 sometimes 12. At times there are per-arranged marriages for 12 year olds and yes they have children at 13. But not at 10 years old not even in other countries.

Though if we want to speak for a rational and logical stand point, the brains development for making such decisions in life doesn't develop until 15 years of age. It's the growth process needed to make logical well thought out choices and have an understanding of things.

So yeah 15 is a good age to have sex but I wouldn't argue that with other countries who marry children off at 12 and 13. In those cases then once they are married by all means have all the sex you want.

[Nathan]

[JMarz]

Regardless, the child gave birth to the baby and logically should be given up for adoption, but since this is Columbia she will be keeping the child and lose her childhood that is if her family is not close with her.

[Keatos]

Why is a 10 year old even having sex? That should be the first question. And no, that's a HUGE operation much worse then just giving birth and putting the kid up for adoption. So I don't think at 10 years old that should even be an option.

That's actually not true. When done correctly, abortion is one of the safest medical procedures. This is contrast to giving birth, especially by someone so young, which can be deadly. Even in the United States, about 34,000 women die every year during childbirth. Even the article says how dangerous the pregnancy was for the girl, which is why they performed a c-section instead of having her give birth naturally (c-sections are also, surprise, very dangerous).


To comment on the article and the majority of comments here (not addressing you specifically anymore Rhyme), this girl was probably raped. She lives in an isolated and most likely poor tribe in a developing Latin American country. While the article says it cannot confirm anything, I think it's pretty damn likely this girl was raped. Most other girls her age that have become pregnant, especially ones in developing countries, were raped by an older adult (father, grandfather, uncle, village chief, husband, etc.). Even if the father was her peer, it is still considered rape because she is far too young to be able to give consent.

Good job everyone.

Edited by Keatos, 09 April 2012 - 08:11 PM.

[Shulk]

I've never actually read anything about abortions, I had only assumed that it would do a number on a persons body. Not due to the dangers of the surgery though, I was thinking more of chemically with hormones and also a persons mental health after going through such a thing. As an adult making such a choice can be extremely hard, I couldn't imagine 10 year old having to go through such. I mean if people in school were to find out she could go through a lot of hate. Also sometimes people might have nightmares thinking about the life that was removed from inside their body. That you actually killed what would have been a living breathing human and you can never ever change that fact.

It's just a lot to think about so I could only imagine the tram that such an operation could have on a young person.

[Keatos]

I've never actually read anything about abortions, I had only assumed that it would do a number on a persons body. Not due to the dangers of the surgery though, I was thinking more of chemically with hormones and also a persons mental health after going through such a thing. As an adult making such a choice can be extremely hard, I couldn't imagine 10 year old having to go through such. I mean if people in school were to find out she could go through a lot of hate. Also sometimes people might have nightmares thinking about the life that was removed from inside their body. That you actually killed what would have been a living breathing human and you can never ever change that fact.

It's just a lot to think about so I could only imagine the tram that such an operation could have on a young person.

While I personally think this "she should have gotten an abortion" discussion is sick (that is not up for anyone to decide but her and her parents), your first sentence confirms that you don't actually know anything about the subject. Both situations can be extremely traumatic or not at all.

[Shulk]

No I don't know a lot about the subject and I'm sure both can be extremely traumatic and I also agree that it's up to her and her parents to decide. My issue with the situation was mainly just her age. If a person is going to decide they are ready to have sex they also have to be ready to decide how to deal with anything that may result.

Basically it's all about choices and weighing out your decisions. I tend to over think things, but when I first decided to have sex myself I had already had a discussion with my father about the matter. We talked about abortion and what it was. We talked about protection and what was the best and proper use. We discussed about if there was a pregnancy by accident what my choices where. I was only 15 at the time but I was well aware of all that could happen and what my decisions were before hand.

Now I have no clue what the situation was with her family or anything like that. So I based my response on how I know how I would be and on emotions. Not ever opinion is based on fact. And actually a lot of a persons opinion is based on personal feelings or experience. So even if I don't have a understanding of the subject matter, I have my own feelings and emotions about the subject along with a bit of life experience.

[Keatos]

No I don't know a lot about the subject and I'm sure both can be extremely traumatic and I also agree that it's up to her and her parents to decide. My issue with the situation was mainly just her age. If a person is going to decide they are ready to have sex they also have to be ready to decide how to deal with anything that may result.

Basically it's all about choices and weighing out your decisions. I tend to over think things, but when I first decided to have sex myself I had already had a discussion with my father about the matter. We talked about abortion and what it was. We talked about protection and what was the best and proper use. We discussed about if there was a pregnancy by accident what my choices where. I was only 15 at the time but I was well aware of all that could happen and what my decisions were before hand.

Now I have no clue what the situation was with her family or anything like that. So I based my response on how I know how I would be and on emotions. Not ever opinion is based on fact. And actually a lot of a persons opinion is based on personal feelings or experience. So even if I don't have a understanding of the subject matter, I have my own feelings and emotions about the subject along with a bit of life experience.

She likely did not choose to have sex. She was probably raped. You really don't think a TEN YEAR OLD can choose to have sex, do you?

Look at this list. Look at how many of these girls were raped. How can you say that this girl chose to have sex?

[Sonic2Ø4]

I think I'm gonna have to agree with Keatos here.

[Shulk]

Did the original article say she was raped? If not then that would be an assumption. She got pregnant right? Well that means she had to already gone through puberty. What happens at puberty, you get hormones that drive your sex drive. So yeah you can choose to have sex at 10. I don't know if she was raped, if she was then that's horrible and obviously makes the entire situation even worse.

[Decho]

because assuming it was consensual when it wasn't stated either way isn't an assumption and ten year olds have developed enough critical thinking skills to choose for themselves to have sex without any benefit of the doubt being given to them due to ignorance of the consequences right.

Edited by Decho, 09 April 2012 - 09:03 PM.

[Keatos]

Did the original article say she was raped? If not then that would be an assumption. She got pregnant right? Well that means she had to already gone through puberty. What happens at puberty, you get hormones that drive your sex drive. So yeah you can choose to have sex at 10. I don't know if she was raped, if she was then that's horrible and obviously makes the entire situation even worse.

Most girls who are pregnant at such a young age are raped, statistically... I showed you a Wiki article about young mothers, the fathers were almost always the girl's own family member or a friend of her mother.

The fact that she lives in an isolated tribe that won't let the Colombian police prosecute the father points to it even more.

But honestly? Just because she may have had hormones and a sex drive does NOT make what happened here not rape. At ten years old you do not have the maturity to decide if you want to have sex or not. This girl was raped.

Edited by Keatos, 09 April 2012 - 09:08 PM.

[Shulk]

Look if I offended anyone with my opinion then I'm sorry. I do NOT have good reading comprehension has I've stated over and over and over again! And right now I feel like I'm just being attacked for having an opinion. I didn't want to get into a HUGE debate about this or have to feel as though I had to defend my thinking.

So yeah after this comment I'm just going to be not responding to this thread anymore. It's just too much for me to handle. -_-

[Ndm3]

Most girls who are pregnant at such a young age are raped, statistically... I showed you a Wiki article about young mothers, the fathers were almost always the girl's own family member or a friend of her own mother.

The fact that she lives in an isolated tribe that won't let the Colombian police prosecute the father points to it even more.

But honestly? Just because she may have had hormones and a sex drive does NOT make what happened here not rape. At ten years old you do not have the maturity to decide if you want to have sex or not. This girl was raped.

Plus even if they had the maturity to decide to have sex or not, I don't think most 10 year olds even know the first thing about sex, unless they were taught by their parents, which would be really weird in society.

[Keatos]

Look if I offended anyone with my opinion then I'm sorry. I do NOT have good reading comprehension has I've stated over and over and over again! And right now I feel like I'm just being attacked for having an opinion. I didn't want to get into a HUGE debate about this or have to feel as though I had to defend my thinking.

So yeah after this comment I'm just going to be not responding to this thread anymore. It's just too much for me to handle. -_-

That's fine, it's just sickening how many people here are blaming this little girl for being raped. :/

Plus even if they had the maturity to decide to have sex or not, I don't think most 10 year olds even know the first thing about sex, unless they were taught by their parents, which would be really weird in society.

It's not weird for parents to tell their kids about sex, but yeah, they would not be old enough to actually agree to have it.

Edited by Keatos, 09 April 2012 - 09:13 PM.